I can’t get the comment from the Head of RTE 2FM, Dan Healy out of my head.
He said in a casual manner recently in an interview, something like “FM radio probably only has about 10 years left”.
Not surprisingly as someone with a fairly firm interest in radio, I’ve been thinking about what radio and indeed audio might look like in 2034, or even 2030.
One of the projects I’m involved with at the moment is looking at the future for Ireland’s radio measurement metrics.
The JNLR Study
The JNLR is the Joint National Listenership Research, which has been running for the best part of 30 years, is the essential currency for radio advertising in Ireland.
Every year 16,500 people are interviewed about their radio listenership habits, and it provides an incredibly detailed pool of data on how Irish people listen to radio. The survey also includes data on how people listen, as well as to which station and for how long.
Every 5 years or so, the survey goes out to tender, and that’s the process that’s currently under consideration.
The most important thing to recall when looking at listenership figures is that there are two distinct audiences for the data. The first is of course the stations and their programming teams, who will adjust, improve or remove presenters based on the data.
The second pool of interested parties though are equally important, and that’s the advertisers, who make decisions everyday on whether or not they should invest in radio.
It’s an ever more cluttered market for advertising with Print, TV, radio and digital all battling for every cent they can get. When you add in new social media platforms, podcast audio and the giant social media and video companies, it’s an incredibly competitive situation.
So what does 2030 look like?
It’s made me think deeply about where audio is going and what it might look like in 5 years time.
For as long as radio has existed, people have been predicting its imminent demise.
Whether it’s our old friend, The Buggles, predicting that “Video killed the Radio Star”, or wise media commentators insisting that social media, that Spotify, that podcasting and so on, would herald the decline of radio, they’ve all been proven wrong.
Radio is in particularly good health at the moment, with the UK and Ireland both reaching 90% of the population every week and proving resistant to the charms of other audio including podcasting.
Larry Rosin’s Edison Research showed through their Infinite Dial study, many years ago, that podcasting, and radio are complementary mediums, and that audio fans are quite happy to include both, and music streaming into their listening repertoire.
There’s been huge pressure too from video, with social platforms like TikTok and Instagram, along with YouTube, all drawing huge audiences, but still not quite fulfilling the same need as audio.
It’s something to do with the sound of the human voice, and it’s something to do with the fact that audio is a complementary medium, that has helped to drive its longevity.
Company is a powerful driver for radio, music, entertainment and the sound of other humans fulfils a basic need to not be alone!
We know from studies like RadioCentre Ireland’s Need States Study, that Radio and Podcasting fulfil different needs, and that Podcasting is a more solitary, headphone driven pursuit.
What would radio look like, if it wasn’t broadcast?
I’ve sat in meetings with engineering types who will argue that FM or DAB transmitters are destined to become obsolete and that stations will just stream, and the world won’t shift too much on it’s axis.
I don’t know if that’s true.
A large part of me still believes that the fact that radio is broadcast, simultaneously, for free, across cities and countries, makes up an important part of radio’s DNA. There’s something totally different in the way we perceive radio, because it’s a medium that exists in the real world, that we hear it in shops, that we hop into a taxi and hear it on.
I’ve seen stations try to turn themselves into MTV, with web streams which insert music videos, and then use studio cameras for the presenters. But, I’ve never seen a station do that and look good.
I’ve trialled in studio cameras where you could stream everything in the studio, watch the presenter making tea and doing links. But it was not compelling viewing, to put it mildly.
The same applies to podcasting, I remain unconvinced about the push to turn podcasts into videocasts, I think there’s definitely a role for video clips, but sitting and watching two presenters in a studio for an hour, or more, just doesn’t work in the same way as audio does.
The future for radio is one of the things that I’m going to be interested to hear more about at Radio Days next week, but I’d love to hear your thoughts?
This has been the 37th official edition of the RAudio Newsletter.
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If FM radio's only got 10 years, in a market with no digital broadcast platforms, I'd be more concerned I was running a single radio station (that like its competitors) is unlikely to be able to compete at anywhere near the level it currently does in an IP-only world. And if that's case I'd be expecting some pretty dramatic changes to their strategy to position themselves ready for this very different world.
Sorry to be a curmudgeon Liam, but I continue my quest to find those young listeners (15+) that the research says are listening to radio.
I always preface these notes with a 'I wish radio only the best - I love radio' message, but I'd also like to be the voice of reason. The ship is sinking.
I note in the US that those lobbying to keep AM radio in cars are now desperately claiming it's an essential service to have in case of nuclear war. The last time I checked, if the nukes go off every computer chip goes with it, and presumably the capability of any AM or FM radio to broadcast. However, I'd say that AM radio will be the last thing on anyone's mind should the worst happen.
According to TechSurvey 2022 from Jacobs Media, for the first time ever the most important feature for new car buyers is Bluetooth (76%) over FM Radio (70%). Bluetooth is another way of spelling Spotify etc. The move is inexorable.
Last week I was lecturing media students in DCU (3rd years, so c 21 years old). Twenty of them in the room. I asked how many listen to radio? 6 hands raised, so 14 who don't, and they're media students that I would've thought would be interested in seeing what's happening in radioland?
On Friday my colleagues from The Fifth Court podcast were being feted with a gong for 'Best Legal Podcast'. Table of ten, I think twenty kids (I use the word loosely) between them. Same question about whether the younger people to radio, and again a big 'No'.
It's also worth mentioning that ambient listening - where a radio is on in the background - is not 'listening to the radio'. If you're shopping and there's a radio on, you're actually engaged in shopping, not in radio listening.
A further point. Podcast listening is actually not complementary to radio listening. You cannot do both at the one time, so one substitutes the other. Also, with the move to podcast listening on smart speakers (Edison Research highlights the trend) people are choosing more and more to listen to what they want, when they want and with 4 million podcasts to choose from, there's something out there for everyone in the audience.